Comments on: Do I know Fraser Henderson? http://idealgovernment.com/2008/02/do_i_know_fraser_henderson/ What do we want from Internet-age government? Wouldn't it be better if... Wed, 14 May 2014 08:35:11 +0000 hourly 1 By: Julia Glidden http://idealgovernment.com/2008/02/do_i_know_fraser_henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-2090 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:14:48 +0000 http://do_i_know_fraser_henderson#comment-2090 Hi William. Friday sounds horrendous and scary – I am really glad all is now ok….And that public services are in good form! Do hope you are feeling much better!

Susie and I have been out of the office – in my case battling an unexpected blizzard in Athens! – so apologies for the late posting. But no mystery – or indeed juicy conspiracy! – on the email address front I am afraid. It was just plain old fashion google research based on a delegate list.

Wish I could also admit to a juicy plot on the part of underhanded PR people to corrupt the web, but again alas I am afraid that the truth is less interesting…. Simply put, we reached out to people whom we thought – however mistakenly – might be interested in the London event in an effort to help promote an agenda we have worked on for years…. And did so as part of our voluntary role in helping to organise the event…. We are not PR people, and I can guarantee everyone that the publicly obtained emails were used for no more than this particular invitation, and will not be used again (unless of course we meet for that coffee and decide to stay in touch!)

That is not to excuse the mistake – or more importantly – the valuable lesson learned, which we have fully taken on board.

By the way, did anyone see the piece in the Guardian about the travel blogger? Raised some interesting issues, as did a recent study by the Centre for Policy Studies about the political use of the Internet in the UK. I’d be really interested in any thoughts anyone might have?

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By: William Heath http://idealgovernment.com/2008/02/do_i_know_fraser_henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-2105 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:12:50 +0000 http://do_i_know_fraser_henderson#comment-2105 Susie hasn’t replied yet – maybe she’s on leave for half term leave or something. I did find her picture, but it didn’t answer the questions. And a picture isn’t sufficient reassurance to open an attachment from someone you don’t know.

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By: Ideal Gov administrator http://idealgovernment.com/2008/02/do_i_know_fraser_henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-2104 Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:53:50 +0000 http://do_i_know_fraser_henderson#comment-2104 Sorry about delay in moderating those last comments. I meant to do this yesterday but found myself testing out local public services with oxygen mask strapped in the back of an ambulance careering up the A12 to Ipswich hospital with suspected scary heart thingy (now thought just to be the same two-month-old viral chest thingy morphed a bit and stopping me breathing, ie I’m fine. And Suffolk public services are in fine fettle). Anyway 🙂
The smileys are working; we have properly extended invitations which we can accept with pleasure to clear these things up and catch up over coffee. And then I _will_ know Fraser Henderson. But yes, do let us all know how the email addresses were collected and used.

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By: Glyn http://idealgovernment.com/2008/02/do_i_know_fraser_henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-2103 Sun, 17 Feb 2008 00:27:20 +0000 http://do_i_know_fraser_henderson#comment-2103 What I would love to know is how they got our email addresses?

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By: Julia Glidden http://idealgovernment.com/2008/02/do_i_know_fraser_henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-2102 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:59:00 +0000 http://do_i_know_fraser_henderson#comment-2102 Hi Guys! Gosh this is like an eGov reunion! Or eGov back in the good old days when it was a little more exciting.

Firstly, I clearly need to apologise. We did not mean to bother anyone, let alone misuse email.

Still, point taken and lesson defintely learned! Perhaps we can incorporate this exchange into a session on how NOT to use the Internet. I always thought that a conference on WORST PRACTICE would be a sell out, and far more valuable than the usual blather.

Fatally flawed on technology? Fair point there. Without wishing to bore everyone with the history of eVoting I have always been a passionate advocate of the need to get standards, procedures and practices in place to ensure fairness, accuracy and transparency. Clearly have not been successful on this front!!!

I won’t tempt a complete loss of all intellectual legitimacy by inviting you to the London event 🙂 (Smiley function is not working, or worse yet my technology skills are continuing on their fatally flawed trajectory!!) But it would be great to get caught up soon and perhaps try to resolve the problems of the eGov universe over a glass of wine or two.

So please consider this an Offical, Non-Mistakenly Extended Invitation!! 🙂

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By: Ideal Gov administrator http://idealgovernment.com/2008/02/do_i_know_fraser_henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-2101 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:35:21 +0000 http://do_i_know_fraser_henderson#comment-2101 Oh, I know Julia – hi Julia 🙂

Havent seen her since she spoke at a conference in Brussels with Andrew Pinder. I was a bit annoyed because I had reservations about what she said and raised this in Q&A but AP gave me short shrift and the aud. rated her higher than me – fair dos. I recall an excellent public speaker in a smart suit, confident, engaging, ready to listen (a bit). But was she (and the whole Accenture e-voting thang) perhaps fatally weak on technology?

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By: Ideal Gov administrator http://idealgovernment.com/2008/02/do_i_know_fraser_henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-2100 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:25:20 +0000 http://do_i_know_fraser_henderson#comment-2100 Dear Fraser

Good to hear from you. Hi. Yes, it sounds as if we’ve got off on the wrong foot but you’ve taken it in good spirit and actually we have interests in common and should meet up for a coffee. Bloomsbury Mon-Wed most weeks works for me; drop me a line anytime on wmheath at gmail dot com

W

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By: Jason Kitcat http://idealgovernment.com/2008/02/do_i_know_fraser_henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-2099 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:23:45 +0000 http://do_i_know_fraser_henderson#comment-2099 Some background:
21c Consultancy was founded by Julia Glidden who used to be the UK boss of Internet voting suppliers Election.com which became the now defunct Accenture e-democracy services. 21c Consultancy were the PR advisors for English e-voting pilots in May 2007.

Under FOI I received some of their planning documents for their PR work – I can’t publish it I’m afraid, but they were very cunning in trying to manage media coverage and eliminating certain key people from the media discourse.

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By: Ideal Gov administrator http://idealgovernment.com/2008/02/do_i_know_fraser_henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-2098 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:22:17 +0000 http://do_i_know_fraser_henderson#comment-2098 Let me try to explain what’s happening here.

Sa spunem conducatorilor Europei ce dorim de la e-guvernare. Vom cheltui 88m de euro taxe pe an pentru informatizarea guvernarii in Europa. Am spus vreodata ce dorim? Sunt proiectele gandite pentru cetateni? Ne vor face viata mai usoara si vor veni in intampinarea
necesitatilor noastre? Putem sa ne incredem in ele? Este clar pentru noi ce dorim?

Sa aflam aici, online. Trimiteti un e-mail lui William Heath daca doriti o parola de autor.

Does that clear things up? That’s the only bit of Romanian I can lay my hands on which I think explains what we do here (but it may, of course, be offering some quite different and inappropriate service). I’m sure our friandly spammers would know, if only they identified themselves.

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By: David Wilcox http://idealgovernment.com/2008/02/do_i_know_fraser_henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-2097 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:12:29 +0000 http://do_i_know_fraser_henderson#comment-2097 This item is current top hit if you Google Fraser Henderson. I’ve tried to do my bit over here.

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