Comments on: Tories announce £1m competition for large-scale crowdsourcing platform http://idealgovernment.com/2009/12/tories-announce-1m-competition-for-large-scale-crowdsourcing-platform/ What do we want from Internet-age government? Wouldn't it be better if... Wed, 14 May 2014 08:35:11 +0000 hourly 1 By: The Coalition: what now for digital? at Helpful Technology http://idealgovernment.com/2009/12/tories-announce-1m-competition-for-large-scale-crowdsourcing-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-4391 Fri, 21 May 2010 07:35:00 +0000 http://idealgovernment.com/?p=1959#comment-4391 […] to make a firm commitment to take the wisdom of online crowds on board (and there’s still the prospect of the £1m prize for a suitable online platform which makes it possible, maybe). Likelihood of happening: […]

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By: The outer limits to the crowd’s wisdom — Federal Computer Week « Many to Many http://idealgovernment.com/2009/12/tories-announce-1m-competition-for-large-scale-crowdsourcing-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-4246 Tue, 26 Jan 2010 23:33:52 +0000 http://idealgovernment.com/?p=1959#comment-4246 […] “Tories announce £1m competition for large-scale crowdsourcing platform” by William Hea…; category Design: Co-creation, Foundation of Trust, Save Time and Money, What do we want? – Cripes. HM’s Loyal Opposition has announced — if elected — a £1m prize for an online platform for large-scale crowdsourcing. […]

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By: David Moss http://idealgovernment.com/2009/12/tories-announce-1m-competition-for-large-scale-crowdsourcing-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-4184 Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:52:09 +0000 http://idealgovernment.com/?p=1959#comment-4184 Bruce Schneier’s monthly newsletter has just arrived. It seems that Slate magazine, like response #15 above, has also suggested a public competition how to improve airport security. That gives us a hook to hang our ideas on. It concentrates the mind, it provides focus. So come on — what are the design features of a crowdsourcing system that will elicit sensible solutions to the problems of airport security?

In Mr Woody Allen’s film Bananas:

[The rebel leader] Esposito announces that he is the ruler of San Marcos, and orders that the country’s official language will be Swedish and that citizens must now change their underwear every half hour, wearing it outside their clothing so that it can easily be checked.

How, for example, would your design deal with suggestions like Mr Allen’s? How would you stop other contributors flaming him? Will your system accept contributions in Swedish? What would you do if the US Transport Security Administration implemented this idea without giving Mr Allen the credit for it? Having got into the habit of handing out million pound baubles, should the government pay for ideas? Etc …

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By: The Armchair Revolution Begins to Stand Up « Face Youth Lab http://idealgovernment.com/2009/12/tories-announce-1m-competition-for-large-scale-crowdsourcing-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-4169 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:42:20 +0000 http://idealgovernment.com/?p=1959#comment-4169 […] attempts that politics is being merged into new technologies through organizations, crowdsourcing (the Tories are offering £1million on a large-scale  platform) and games (The UK Parliament has created an ‘MP for a Week’ online role playing […]

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By: Nigel http://idealgovernment.com/2009/12/tories-announce-1m-competition-for-large-scale-crowdsourcing-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-4153 Tue, 12 Jan 2010 04:08:13 +0000 http://idealgovernment.com/?p=1959#comment-4153 There are several solutions in the works, but they have one issue which the Tories might not be happy with: they tend to castrate political parties in favor of direct citizen empowerment.
Here they are: http://www.metagovernment.org/wiki/Main_Page

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By: Guy M http://idealgovernment.com/2009/12/tories-announce-1m-competition-for-large-scale-crowdsourcing-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-4149 Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:42:53 +0000 http://idealgovernment.com/?p=1959#comment-4149 This is a cracking idea from the Tories and should be applauded and supported. The success or failure lies in the criteria that need to be met to claim the prize – more here: http://wp.me/pHMG9-2y

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By: Daren C. Brabham http://idealgovernment.com/2009/12/tories-announce-1m-competition-for-large-scale-crowdsourcing-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-4111 Wed, 06 Jan 2010 16:03:42 +0000 http://idealgovernment.com/?p=1959#comment-4111 I’ve been working on crowdsourcing as a way to solve public problems and boost public participation for some time now. If you’re interested, see two of my papers on the topic:

One from the journal Planning Theory: http://www.darenbrabham.com/files/brabhamplanning.pdf

And one from the journal Convergence:
http://www.darenbrabham.com/files/brabhamconvergence.pdf

My dissertation focuses on this topic, with an investigation of Next Stop Design (www.nextstopdesign.com), a crowdsourced bus stop design competition I headed up that was funded by a grant from the US Federal Transit Administration.

In fact, a Conservative Party official interviewed me about this topic a few months ago.

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By: @crowdmanage http://idealgovernment.com/2009/12/tories-announce-1m-competition-for-large-scale-crowdsourcing-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-4109 Wed, 06 Jan 2010 14:40:24 +0000 http://idealgovernment.com/?p=1959#comment-4109 I think a crowdsourcing platform for public policy is an excellent idea. The vote does not capture collective wisdom in the same way as a platform would allow. But I prefer the non-partisan and appointed (rather than competition) approach of expert labs (http://www.crowdmanage.com/government/public-policy-crowdsourcing/).

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By: David Moss http://idealgovernment.com/2009/12/tories-announce-1m-competition-for-large-scale-crowdsourcing-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-4108 Wed, 06 Jan 2010 11:16:41 +0000 http://idealgovernment.com/?p=1959#comment-4108 William old man, as you may imagine, I disagree with everything you say in response #14 except the 2nd sentence of the 2nd paragraph.

In particular, it is clear from my comments that control of the crowdsourcing facility is an issue. If the politicians and/or civil servants retain control of what issues are consulted on, how the issues are worded and what happens with the suggestions submitted, then the initiative is likely to be smothered, the status quo will be retained. That is a WIBBI, isn’t it. WIBBI some power over the process was relinquished by the politicians and civil servants, and handed over to … someone else. House rules therefore observed.

I would suggest also that debate will be facilitated if we take an example. No-one can possibly disagree that “our” proposals should be “wise and inventive“.

But we need more flesh on the bones. I suggest that we take the Abdulmuttalab case as our example.

What would the public suggest is the proper response to the 25 December 2009 pantybomber?

It’s the public who will have to queue up for hours in airports and be patted down and “X-Rayed” (actually, it’s wireless technology, not X-Ray). It’s the public who won’t be able to go to the lavatory for the final hour of a US flight or even read a book on their lap. That’s if the new security measures being suggested are implemented. What alternative would the public propose?

With that as our example, how do we get the issue onto the public consultation platform? How do we publicise the availability of the platform? How long should the debate continue? Who will word the description of the issue? Who will decide which public suggestions are worth pursuing? Will the authorities just proceed with what they planned anyway and ignore the crowd’s suggestions? Etc …

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By: William Heath http://idealgovernment.com/2009/12/tories-announce-1m-competition-for-large-scale-crowdsourcing-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-4101 Tue, 05 Jan 2010 16:13:05 +0000 http://idealgovernment.com/?p=1959#comment-4101 Look, we’re always sceptical, but you’re just being cynical here.

I think there’s the germ of a valuable and powerful idea here. I dont entirely support how my local MP Jeremy Hunt has articulated it: dismissing “so-called experts” is the sort of langage we expect of people who sack David Nutt and prefer to get their drugs policy from the Daily Mail.

But there’s something here can can try t make the best of. And house rules require that. if we’re not entirely satisfied with how this stands, we suggest how we can make it better. You’re falling short here David.

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